Could this dining set be Horner?

Really getting into Horner-but am not as well versed in this area as in Meeks and Belter furniture--have identified an unmarked dining set being promoted as Horner--it is definitely oak-without it being marked, can any of you Horner experts look at the pics I have included and give me an idea as to whether this is the real deal or not?  Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated... I have maxed out the pics for this post , but will put a few more in my next post...Thanks.  Charles.

Here are a few more pics and close ups that may help in identifying this furniture--someone mentioned to me that there is a brand of furniture called Phoenix Furniture that can be mistaken for Horner--I am not familiar with Phoenix Furniture brand and could not locate information on them via Google---if anyone has any information on Phoenix Furniture vs. Horner attributions, that might also prove helpful.  Thanks again...Charles.

Hi!
I ran across a reference to a Henry W. Jenkins and Sons company at http://www.jstor.org/pss/1180516 and a photo of their Horner-like work at
http://dapc.winterthur.org/iseedapc/mkr_j_ix.htm--you will have to click on + in front of the Jenkins, Henry & Sons entry and wait for the pop-up. There is a detail of Jenkins cabinet at the bottom of the pop up in grayscale.
Thanks!

Thanks drew 49-good information--I went to the auction where this 12 piece set was sold as "Horner" and it went intact (thank goodness-they tried to sell it seperately but someone bought it all and kept it together-I hate to see old sets separated)for $42,000 before buyers premium of 10% :o.  Upon close inspection, there were no labels on any pieces and the carving while very nice did not say Horner to me.  Your information appears to be closer to the correct attribution.  Way out of my price range anyway! ;D  Thanks for the input.  Charles.

Sorry to weigh in late on this, but I can confirm those chairs are by Horner as I have 3 Horner hall chairs with identical griffins (save for the "beard" area).  One chair retains the original R.J. Horner label.

People are pretty loose with Horner attributions but the reality is that there other manufacturers at the time who produced similar quality (Geo. Flint) and many manufacturers who produced griffin oak items, so it is hard without labels to firmly attribute to Horner sometimes.

In this case, I can confirm the chairs are, and if the patterns in the crest of the chair are repeated in the remaining pieces of the set (ie. not a marriage), one might be able to attribute the whole set.

Obviously a few bidders felt confident that it was.

Just following the train of thought of my last response I saw that the china, server, and buffet had the same crest pattern as the chairs so I would feel very comfortable saying this was a Horner set.

Yes, Rare, you are right, the crests on all pieces were identical upon personal inspection at the auction--no labels on any pieces though---thanks for the confirmation--the fellow that bought the entire set onsite told a friend of mine outside that his wife sent him to the auction and told him not to come home without the dining room set or else!  LOL!! Man has got to do what he has to do I guess to keep harmony in the family!  Thanks for confirming the Horner attribution--just beginning to learn about Horner(been a Belter and Meeks guy), and the best way to do it as we all know is to see it person...Charles.

If you want to see some of the best you need to come to my area.  Yesterday's Antiques is jam packed with the stuff.  He has a Horner bookcase, one of which 10 were only ever made.  $80,000.