Antique Furniture Attributions

Probably Berkey & Gay

Started by rarevictorian · April 14, 2008 · 7 posts

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Antique Furniture Attributions thread on victorianforum.com · started April 14, 2008 by rarevictorian · 7 posts · discussion in 2008.

I think that Thomas Brooks is a stretch on this bedroom set and based on what I've seen of Berkey & Gay, this has a reasonable chance of being by them.

I think that Thomas Brooks is a stretch on this bedroom set and based on what I've seen of Berkey & Gay, this has a reasonable chance of being by them.

I agree - Thomas Brooks is a huge stretch for this set, although this seller seems to attribute almost everything above mediocre to a brand name maker. This set is very middle of the road (maybe even at the bottom end of middle of the road) no burl on bed panels, very plain footboard, very simple finials, nothing stellar about it. It was even middle of the road for Berkey & Gay. Their high end line far surpassed this set for design & details. See "Late 19th Century Furniture by Berkey & Gay" ISBN # 0764306561 - Great Book! - over 320 photos from Berkey & Gay Catalogs.    woodwright
From the same seller is this mediocre library table which he is attributing to Thomas Brooks.  I have 3 different library tables of the caliber and style that are currently being attributed to Brooks and this one does not hold a candle to any of those I own.  In reality I am mot aware of a single library table signed by Brooks, and therefore am very curious where this trend originated.  Note that I am not referring to the typical parlor tables with the graduated balls that are commonly attributed to Brooks as well.

Michael
The red fabric nailed to the top must be what makes it so rare and valuable - I've never seen a table treated quite this way, it is indeed very mediocre. They always state in their listings that their experience is based on a lifetime worth of experience in appraisals - they must be awful young and have had short lives so far.
This seller also has a listing they are calling a  "BELTER ERA MEEKS ROSEWOOD FLORAL CARVED PARLOR SOFA" , which they say in the listing is probably Meeks. Heck it isn't even Rosewood (it's walnut) and it surely isn't Meeks either. Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/BELTER-ERA-MEEKS-ROSEWOOD-FLORAL-CARVED-PARLOR-SOFA_W0QQitemZ130212869035QQihZ003QQcategoryZ63583QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
As mentioned elsewhere, I'd wager about 1...maybe 2...dollars that those settees are lower-end Galushas in Walnut.  They are nice settees, but clearly not from Belter, Meeks, Roux, etc.

Thank you,

Jason
Looks like Berkey and Gay or another similar manufacturer to me as well. Berkey and Gay made some nice stuff as well as a lot of mediocre furniture, but none of it seems to require more than rudimentary cabinet makers skills to produce. I disassembled the backboard of the huge sideboard pictured on page 8 of the Witherell book, figure 1, one of the most impressive pieces in the book and most of it was made by machine. It essentially consisted of a large walnut board cut on a band saw with various moldings and embellishments nailed, screwed and glued to it. Here's a pic of some of the stock elements I removed from it.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/zekenstein/IMG_1215.jpg

These fancy wood ornaments were made in large quantities and held onto various pieces of furniture with small nails and glue. The overall look of the end result is lovely but very little handwork seems to be involved.

The Berkey and Gay book is essential for all collectors and students of Victorian furniture and it has my highest recommendation.
I agree.  I've added the B&G book to the "book page".