Antique Furniture Attributions

Parlor set - any ideas of who made it?

Started by monkecmonkedo · August 14, 2008 · 5 posts · 8 images

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Antique Furniture Attributions thread on victorianforum.com · started August 14, 2008 by monkecmonkedo · 5 posts, 8 image attachments · discussion in 2008–2009.

My wife and I have been slowly restoring a 1901 Queen Anne Victorian near Albany, NY for 3 years now. We've been collecting furniture for about the same amount of time and have gravitated toward higher end pieces made between 1870-1910. I've been lurking around RV for quite a…

My wife and I have been slowly restoring a 1901 Queen Anne Victorian near Albany, NY for 3 years now.  We've been collecting furniture for about the same amount of time and have gravitated toward higher end pieces made between 1870-1910.  I've been lurking around RV for quite a while now and hope to post some images of our collection soon.  We've got an Eastlake parlor set now that we'd like to replace with a Jelliff set or something of similar quality. 

I noticed this seven piece parlor set on an estate sale preview and may be interested in it.  The pictures are rather poor but suggest that it may be of good quality.  It's not over the top, but when I look at the carved details on the crest (uniform, crisp, well proportioned), the carved tassels (not relief, but separated from the back), the "heart shaped" seat, and the distinctive U-shape where the backs meet the seat, it makes me think it came from a decent maker.  I'd be happy to hear any opinions on makers, similar pieces seen, or comments on quality. 

I may end up going to the sale to see it in person and if it's priced right, it may have a new home - and new upholstery. :) - Dave
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Jelliff carved tassels onto some of the pieces that are in the Newark Museum, but in examining them, they are not a direct match for the tassels on the set you have presented.  In looking at the Schrenkeisen catalogs from the period, the sofa is similar to at least one but not close enough for a match.  I wouldn't be surprised to learn that either one made this set, but I don't have any documented evidence to confirm either.  It certainly looks like a set made in NY or NJ.

The table is unremarkable but the parlor set demonstrates quality carving and burl panels.  I wish the skirts had a little more going on.  I enhanced the photos a bit for easier inspection.
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parlordesk — Parlor set - any ideas of who made it?
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parlorchair — Parlor set - any ideas of who made it?
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parlor1 — Parlor set - any ideas of who made it?
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parlortable — Parlor set - any ideas of who made it?
Thanks for enhancing the images.  Much easier to see the detail.  I agree that the table is run-of-the-mill Eastlake.  (I included the picture because it had a close up of the gentlemen's chair arm.)  I like that the set has seven pieces.  Seems like all to often they are split up.  I think I'll try to make the estate sale to see the set in person. 

I was not familiar with Schrenkeisen but a quick search yielded your posts on Schrenkeisen vs. Jelliff. http://rarevictorian.com/tag/schrenkeisen From the examples you show, it seems like this set would be middle to lower quality for either of these makers?

We debated bidding on an 8-peice Jelliff attributed set a few months back (I forget the auction house), but didn't.  When I saw what it went for, I wish i had.

Thanks again.
The parlor suite may be Pottier & Stymus who produced a wide range of seating furniture all which was well constructed.  This would have been a very modest design for the company however.

Renaissanceman
I've been looking for a cylinder desk like that.  The only ones I can ever find in Wisconsin are Eastlake, and I'm not into that.

What a beautiful set.  Good luck on obtaining it.